Bush and the Nazi's

A Close Relationship

Published on November 12, 2004 By SameOldRat In Politics

I found a very interesting article after having a conversation with a friend about none other than the Bush family. Bush has been compared to the Nazi regime which very interestingly is not all that far off. Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather was a personal banker to Hitler. Many of the Bush fortune comes from the Nazi legacy. Here's the link. http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm

Comments (Page 1)

messybuu

on Nov 12, 2004

That's why I don't buy Volkswagen cars or IBM products (including products that are offshoots of IBM Nazi products, such as most of the PCs sold today), and I think anybody who does is a freaking Nazi. I hope you're not one of them.

Dr Guy

on Nov 12, 2004

Old News actually. And factually false. Did you bother to check out the stats on the issue? I think not.

Watch out for Black Helicopters!

iamheather

on Nov 12, 2004

Old News actually. And factually false.

Like ancient...and like bogus!

Dr Guy

on Nov 12, 2004

Hey, but he wants whore points, and we are obliging him!

SameOldRat

on Nov 12, 2004

I did not realize that this was ancient news. I would like to know where the information proving that this is bogus could be found. As far as whore points go, that was never intended.

Draginol

on Nov 12, 2004

Guys, sure it's old news but please don't accuse people of things like "points whoring" and the like. Good bloggers write a lot. Don't discourage people from writing about things.

Daiwa

on Nov 12, 2004

There was a war back in the 40's? Wow, I'll have to look into that.

Cheers,
Daiwa

LeapingLizard

on Nov 12, 2004

I think this is about more than the war. Rat has a valid point, and maybe he just discovered it. So what. We should be supporting the exploration of information. Read, read, read. The more the better. Go Rat!

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Grim Xiozan

on Nov 12, 2004

Hey, you can always check out the americannaziparty.com or was it org, anyways something like that if you want to see what "real" modern day Nazis are like.

IMO, they are complete smacktards and nutters who need to go into years of Psychological Therapy to clear their little noggins of all that false bigoted information. Though I find what the Swiss Bank has done 100 times worse than playing the Nazi name calling or association game with Bush or any President.

On Time, On Target, On Topic!
Are we to always blame the sins of the Father or Grandfather on the Child?
Like Arnold?

Grim, Future-Past Plinko Nazi-Hunter Extraordinaire!!

Mitch21

on Nov 12, 2004

Grim- yeah that site is sorta creepy.... im scared

dabe

on Nov 13, 2004

SameOldRat, you should check out this article "The Best Enemies Money Can Buy" Link
Fact is, Prescott may have been Hitler's banker, but that, in and of itself, doesn't have any bearing on today's politics (other than the apple doesn't fall far from the tree). What is important is how it all progressed from there, including the Bush family ties that have evolved over the years - from the Nazis to the Saudis to the Bin Ladens to the Carlyle Group, and into American politics. It reads like a bad scifi novel of an alien takeover. Scary stuff.

Don Bemont

on Nov 13, 2004

The important thing is not what ones ancestors did. (Heck, look at Kennedy, Sr. Or consider some of the viewpoints of your own grandparents.

) The important thing is what the individual does.

President Bush has, in some ways, veered far enough right to make one nervous, given the history of the far right in the past century. His administration's viewpoints on prisoners ("Lets see how limited an interpretation of the Geneva Convention rules we can get away with") alarms me greatly. And the stirring up of nationalistic hatreds and resentment would remind most anyone of that dark era.

However, I think that a parallel between President Bush and fascists ignores the main facts of history:
1) Fascists were, at their core, cool to capitalism. The term National Socialist may have been a misnomer -- they were far more nationalistic than socialistic -- yet, the term was not meaningless either. Fascists championed the middle class, not the upper class.
2) Our current neocon view of the world has more in common with the late colonialists than it does with the fascists. Current policy is to define the national good in terms of what will make the world safe for the corporations -- for extraction of natural resources, and for the development of high consumption markets. That is how "American interests" are defined, and that is what tax dollars can be spent freely for. It is assumed that the benefits will "trickle down" to the rest of us... Think British Empire

If you want to understand the pros and cons of our current course of action, you would do better to read up on the late British Empire than the fascists.

bakerstreet

on Nov 13, 2004

" The important thing is not what ones ancestors did. (Heck, look at Kennedy, Sr ...."

Which would be even more apt, since the elder Kennedy's corruption secured his son the White House by a mere 112, 000 or so votes. Between the elder Kennedy's mob connections securing millions of union votes and the undead filing from graveyards to vote in Chicago and elsewhere, I think it could be said as many souls were sold to build Camelot as were to buy the ranch at Crawford.

Daiwa

on Nov 13, 2004

His administration's viewpoints on prisoners ("Lets see how limited an interpretation of the Geneva Convention rules we can get away with") alarms me greatly.

I'm not in favor of torture, either, but didn't 9/11 "alarm you greatly?" The terrorists didn't just ignore the rule book that day, they tore it up and threw it in our faces.

I would have considered my President derelict in his duty after 9/11 if he had not instructed his administration to completely re-evaluate the full range of options open to us in dealing with an enemy and a threat unlike any we've ever faced, one that gives not one rat's ass about the Geneva Convention, would violate it right & left then run willingly under its protective umbrella, laughing all the way. Where in the Convention does it say it's OK to fly fully-loaded commercial jets into buildings?

The politics of the re-election campaign turned that re-evaluation into fodder for partisans of the left, an inevitable political risk. I'm grateful our President took that political risk and that 52% of the electorate saw through the left's distortions and understood what's at stake. We need to continue an honest and constructive discussion of how to deal with the threat that is still there, not more of this "Bush and the Nazi's" bullshit.

Cheers,
Daiwa

kingbee

on Nov 13, 2004

I would have considered my President derelict in his duty after 9/11 if he had not instructed his administration to completely re-evaluate the full range of options open to us in dealing with an enemy and a threat unlike any we've ever faced, one that gives not one rat's ass about the Geneva Convention, would violate it right & left then run willingly under its protective umbrella, laughing all the way

smart almost always trumps tough. he may have instructed his administration to reevaluate all the options, in which case they failed him (rumsfeld's refusal to submit the marines recommendation for dealing with falloujah last april is a classic example of that) in pushing...ultimately he failed us by choosing...to employ a byzantine approach that hasnt contained at least 8 (like half of those released) who should still be in custody instead of back with the taliban while continuing to confine others who didnt deserve to be picked up in the first place. legal scholars, lawyers and judges from both sides of the political divide are increasingly frustrated by the process which is rapidly disintegrating because it's so obviously flawed. mistakes are understandable, especially when there's not enough time to consider all aspects carefully. refusing to acknowledge mistakes isnt understandable or acceptable.

since this administration puts such a premium on secrecy, we may never know for certain how much useful intelligence was gathered in gitmo. one thing we can be fairly certain of--based on 3000 years of actual hands-n experience: coercion is the least effective means of obtaining reliable information.

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