Fuck That
Published on July 11, 2005 By SameOldRat In Politics
It has been a while since I have written on JU, and my pact with myself for writing again was to not post anything political, but this is only semi-political, so here it goes.

A friend of mine, a die hard Republican, has recently revealed to me that he is joining the Army. I am a Liberal, and don't agree with the war. After much deliberation and anger in my mind, I have come to grips with the idea of him fighting. It took a while, but I realize now that he is what this country needs. Many people sit around spouting Conservative ideas and looking down on me for stating my point. Many of the people taking the conservative side though, cringe at the idea of going to war themselves. My friend is a true believer in what he believes and I am damn proud of him to back up his words with action. Don't get me wrong, it hurts me to know that his life will be in danger, but it is people like him that we need fighting this war; True go-getters, and the people that believe in making a positive change. Never in my life would I think that I would back up someone deciding to fight, but if there is a correct time to do this, it is now. He is fighting for what He believes, and I find that courageous. So David, this one is for you. May my love be with you at all times, and never forget that I will be there, no matter what decisions you make.


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on Jul 11, 2005
As one who has served, my hat's off to your friend. While I don't really consider myself a conservative, more of a slightly right leaning middle of the road type, I served as I believe it is the duty of all able bodied citizens to serve their nation in some capacity.

Discounting those who are unable to serve for physical reasons, I believe most conservatives have served, or are serving. Most of the conservative folks I know personally are former military.
on Jul 11, 2005
I would never assert that anyone not unwilling to go, but just plain not able to go, as a bad thing. I support everyones opinion, and believe it is great that anyone can have an opinion. This article is plain personal, and I find it great that someone who believes in the war is actually going to fight in it. There was no harm meant to those who have limitations, and to those who have fought, I thank them from my heart. Any disrespect to you or anyone else, was not intended.
on Jul 11, 2005
I should have added that my hat is also off to you for being able to put aside your political views to support your friend. That's true friendship.
on Jul 11, 2005
I have to agree with LW. Just because I am not able to serve doesn't make my support for the war and our soldiers any less genuine.
on Jul 11, 2005
I have to agree with LW. Just because I am not able to serve doesn't make my support for the war and our soldiers any less genuine.


I agree completely, that was not the point I was making.
on Jul 11, 2005
I like the tone of this thread. Full of real emotions and obvious pride. While I don't agree with the illegal war and whatnot, I applaud your actions which are straight from the heart, so to speak. I sure hope your friend will be okay and safe. Maybe when he gets there things will have quieted down a lot. Godspeed.
on Jul 11, 2005
Thank you much Reiki. I too hope things have calmed down by the time he arrives. It took alot for me to support his decision, but I would never let politics ruin a personal relationship. Once again, thanks for the support.
on Jul 11, 2005
Just wondering if you're tried talking him out of it at all. It sounds like you have a clear understanding of the risks involved for your friend.
on Jul 11, 2005
Reiki-
I haven't necessarily tried to talk him out of joining. The initial shock of him telling me that he was joining was responded by me as a fuck that type of attitude, but he knows the way that I feel about things and I understand the way that he feels about things, so talking him out of it would never work. Would I rather see him not go, of course, but everybody has a different path in life and this is what he has chosen, and that is why I support his decision 100%. I believe it wouldn't be my job to talk someone out of a decision of this caliber.
on Jul 11, 2005
too true.I truly hope he doesn't get hurt. Again, GodSpeed.
on Jul 11, 2005
Good for you for supporting him and being a good friend. It's always scary to have someone you love serving in the military, but were it not for these brave folks who volunteer to go, it could be you or I walking the streets of Baghdad in full gear or scrambling eggs at the DFAC in Kabul.

Best wishes to you and your friend.

(BTW, I have the highest respect for those who support the war AND are willing to fight it. It's one thing to provide verbal support and quite another to back it up with action.)
on Jul 11, 2005
d'oh. double post
on Jul 11, 2005
Thanks Texas Wahine, I truly appreciate your support for my friend. Best wishes to you as well, and to whoever it is you love that is serving.
on Jul 11, 2005
SOR:
Thanks Texas Wahine, I truly appreciate your support for my friend.


I hope that he'll find satisfaction and success in his military career and remain safe. I hope that for all our Soldiers, but for your friend in particular.

Best wishes to you as well, and to whoever it is you love that is serving.


My husband is in the Army. He signed up back when the US was only flirting with going to war in Iraq. It was difficult for me to go along with...he went to talk to a recruiter after his college classes on his day off from work. When he called to tell me what he'd done, I demanded to talk to the recruiter. The recruiter said all the right things and convinced me that the Army would provide a better life for our family (and that is true in many respects), so my husband joined.

Before he left for Basic Training, I cried every day, even at work. I was worried about being away from him during BT and I was scared that he would be sent to war.

He's been in for 2 years now and will become a SGT in September. He spent 11 months deployed in support of OEF. It was terrifying and heart breaking and it complicated our family, but he came home safely. There's no guarantee he won't go again...to Afghanistan or Iraq or even somewhere else.

*Sigh*

I'm proud of him. He's a medic, and he's done some amazing things, both while deployed and here at home. I suppose the pride at who he is and what he does helps ease the anxiety about where he will be and what could happen to him.

Like I said, it's always scary to have someone you love serving in the military.

PS - How's Leaping Lizard doing?
on Jul 11, 2005
SameOldRat. I commend you for two reasons. I commend you for believing in yourself enough that you can stand up for your own ideals while supporting a friend while he stands up for his own.

To protest any war is just as Constitutional and patriotic as to fight in it. You and David are showing what both sides of the issue truly mean. Two people on opposite sides of an issue and remaining friends.

I hate the whole "chickenhawk" crap because (to me at least) all it is is a way for one side to try to shut the other side up. We are not a great country because we shut each other up, we are great because people like you and David are willing to be friends no matter how loud the rhetoric gets.
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